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Post by Jens Dietrich on Jun 18, 2008 11:16:04 GMT -8
I just finished it last night as well.
Ok, so the plot isn't significantly different (still story by Lucas, unfortunately), but the execution is a hell of a lot more tasteful. I definitely appreciate how developed and proactive Marion is in this version, and how it generally dials back the crazy, despite the nuclear fridge still being in there (grrr!).
The aliens are handled a hell of a lot better, too. I actually like that part of the story not being foreshadowed so much, as well as the more ambiguous nature of the ending. Some interesting implications vis-a-vis religion there. I'm still not a fan of the ending, but it works a hell of a lot better here than in the version we saw on screen.
Would I have liked the movie if it had followed this script instead? Probably not, as Lucas' story is still inherently flawed. However, I would have despised it a whole lot less than I did.
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Post by Hook on Jun 18, 2008 16:55:20 GMT -8
Oh, come on. That Von Grauen character basically has a wet dream with Hitler in the end which I think has its fair share of ridiculous imprinted on it, and then some other characters you don't know die, except for the Terminator-like Yuri, who careens from indestructible to Mac "Jonesy!" sidekick effortlessly. And that ending would have looked awful on screen in terms of pace and continuity. Here you have this cool, mysterious object that deteriorates into a sit-down with the aliens while, "Here, let us explain everything through that dude over there. This may take a while".
However, every reaction shot and cutaway is just right so that maybe, just maybe, it would have worked despite the extravagance of some scenes.
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Post by Kevin Smith on Jun 18, 2008 16:57:47 GMT -8
For Indy 5: Mutt Williams and the Cash Cow...
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Post by franzridesagain on Jun 19, 2008 15:55:45 GMT -8
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Post by Armin on Jun 19, 2008 16:49:25 GMT -8
That was seriously funny. Better than the movie.
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Post by General Silliness on Jun 20, 2008 8:24:56 GMT -8
That was seriously funny. Better than the movie. most fun i had all week...
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Post by greenaxer on Jul 9, 2008 19:25:17 GMT -8
Hehehe, Country Buffet, douchebag sidekick, and the space-time continuum. Awesome.
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Post by Hook on Oct 11, 2008 9:09:59 GMT -8
www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/187260Seriously, I reserve this kind of hatred for abysmal products overhyped to infinity, which is exactly what I'll do when Watchmen comes out, but what the hell? Overall, fanboys didn't like Indy 4. Preaching to the choir much?
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Post by Jens Dietrich on Oct 13, 2008 20:55:22 GMT -8
As you may well remember, I despised Crystal Skull. Still, I couldn't help but hate this episode of South Park EVEN MORE. Preachy, heavy-handed, unfunny, and pandering. Parker and Stone propose that Lucas and Spielberg should be put in jail for "raping" Indiana Jones - I propose that Parker and Stone should be put in jail for raping South Park.
See how dumb the whole argument is? This episode was the perfect example of totally irrational fanboy overreaction. Sure, Crystal Skull was a godawful movie - get the fuck over it already! Lucas and Spielberg can ruin whatever intellectual properties they own, and you don't have to keep watching.
Jeez.
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Post by Hook on Oct 14, 2008 6:27:33 GMT -8
I would have "gotten" it if they made fun of the fanboy anger on the net, but the entire episode was a stupid, fanboy rant! Their "Free Hat" episode, on the other hand, was gold.
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Post by Jon Broxton on Oct 14, 2008 9:10:20 GMT -8
I laughed. But then I'm a pop-culture neanderthal, so what do I know?
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Post by ErikWoods on Oct 14, 2008 10:45:55 GMT -8
This episode was the perfect example of totally irrational fanboy overreaction. You hit the nail right on the head with this comment without you even knowing it. This episode wasn't about Trey and Matt's reaction to the film (althought I'm sure they hated it just as much) but ithe ridiculous Indiana Jones fanboy reaction to the film. And it's not just Indy fans who react like this, it's also a comment on the reaction of hard core fans of any genre of film or any kind of fanboy over reaction. We even see it's in own film music community. So showing the literal raping of Indy by Goerge and Steven just goes to show how absolutely rediculous a statement like "Spielberg and Lucas raped Indiana Jones" is. -Erik-
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Post by indy2003 on Oct 14, 2008 10:51:21 GMT -8
Every once in a while, South Park will toss out a gem. The "Russell Crowe Fighting 'Round the World" comes to mind. Still, I think they're tired and unfunny more often than not these days. Daily Show and Colbert Report aside, Comedy Central's lineup is pretty terrible at the moment.
Back at ya later
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Post by Jens Dietrich on Oct 14, 2008 13:05:09 GMT -8
You hit the nail right on the head with this comment without you even knowing it. This episode wasn't about Trey and Matt's reaction to the film (althought I'm sure they hated it just as much) but ithe ridiculous Indiana Jones fanboy reaction to the film. And it's not just Indy fans who react like this, it's also a comment on the reaction of hard core fans of any genre of film or any kind of fanboy over reaction. I think you're giving them more credit than they deserve, Erik. To me this episode didn't come off as mocking fanboy fanaticism at all, but as declaring solidarity with it. Usually when Trey and Matt try to make a satiric point, it's pretty hit-on-the-head obvious, so I seriously doubt they were just trying to be super-subtle this time. Just IMHO, of course. You can interpret the episode however you like.
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