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Post by muckle dabuckle on Nov 6, 2007 17:02:00 GMT -8
If you need to get something off of your chest about a score, composer, etc., etc. post here. Maybe you don't like a popular/classic score everyone else does and can't take it anymore. A guilty pleasure you're too scared to reveal because of the constant ridicule it'll bring. Tell us. Anything film music related. Be honest. No reasons/explanations needed if you don't want.
Here are a few of mine:
1) Don't like Danny Elfman scores. Can't really explain why. They just don't do anything for me. I like his themes from Batman, Beetlejuice, Pee Wee, Edward Scissorhands, Mars Attacks, but the rest of his scores are just so boring. I have about 17 Elfman scores and I never listen to them.
2) Zimmer's "Thin Red Line" is just dreadful. Boring as hell. Yeah, about two minutes in the middle of 'Journey to the Line' are good but that's all on the entire album. Wake me up when it's over (ironically this is one score where I listened to every last second). And no it's not smart or intellectual just because it's boring. Boring boring boring.
Next.
-Nate
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Post by ellen on Nov 6, 2007 17:48:27 GMT -8
Dear Intrada: just how many unreleased Richard Band scores ARE you going to inflict on us?
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Post by muckle dabuckle on Nov 6, 2007 17:48:54 GMT -8
Ha ha ha. Good one! ;D
-Nate
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Post by ellen on Nov 6, 2007 17:56:31 GMT -8
Disclaimer: Band's BEASTMASTER 2: THROUGH THE PORTAL OF TIME is my official Guilty Pleasure (or at least, "Swamp Creature Attacks" is). But a little goes a loooong way...
If I wanted to be snarkier, I could wonder aloud why people get all het up over Intrada's clues. Come on dudes, don't overtax your brain cells here... it's most likely going to be something by Bruce Broughton, Richard Band or David Newman...
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Post by muckle dabuckle on Nov 6, 2007 18:00:11 GMT -8
Another good one! ;D I hope Roger isn't reading this. Here's another: I absolutely love the Con Air score. -Nate
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Post by indy2003 on Nov 6, 2007 18:27:23 GMT -8
- Trevor Jones and James Newton Howard are both terribly overrated. Both are capable of writing great scores, but more often than not, their work is lazy and uninspired. This wouldn't be so bad if they were untalented... but for both of them to show off their real talent and then pretend they don't have any is just cruel.
- Why does the "executive music producer" deserve as prominent a credit as the composer? I'm looking at you, Hans Zimmer. Oh, wait... now I know.
- Screen Archives needs to stop sending me e-mails telling me my order has shipped two days after I've received the order. On another note, where is my latest Screen Archives order? They sent me a notice some two weeks ago... did they foretell that I would post this?
- I listened to Crimson Tide again recently. Wow, that score has aged poorly.
- Intrada could release twenty Bruce Broughton scores in a row, and I would buy them all without even bothering to listen to sound clips, because something* about Broughton just makes me press the "purchase" button every time.
- Why bother having a film music website if you're only going to do some 9-10 reviews per year of scores seemingly selected at random?
Back at ya later
*his musical skills
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Post by tharpdevenport on Nov 6, 2007 18:29:28 GMT -8
My review (in a self-started thread) at JGOnline, of "Legend" is ... very negative.
Same about "First Knight".
And did I tell you how much the third prequel Star Wars score sucked? For that matter, I can't think of anything Williams has done lately that was really worth a damn.
And that terrible "Firewall" score to Desplat ... it's a coaster unless someone wants to trade it from me.
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Post by Michael Arlidge on Nov 6, 2007 18:32:48 GMT -8
OK, here goes: 1) Star Trek: The Motion Picture is a vastly over-rated score. 2) John Williams is far from the best composer in the history of the universe that most people think he is. 3) Gustavo "Talent Vacuum" Santaolalla deserved to win the Oscar for Brokeback Mountain (even though I would have preferred John Williams to win for Memoirs of a Geisha). 4) I detest Ennio Morricone's spaghetti western scores. 5) Graeme Revell should have finished his law degree, and spared us his insufferable "music". 6) I have a crush on a prominent film composer - but there's no way in Hell that I'm telling you who! 7) I couldn't care less whether the Back to the Future score gets an official release. 8) Cutthroat Island, although undeniably brilliant, is one of the most insufferably noisy score ever written. 9) I don't give a fuck how blatantly James Horner rips off other people's work. 10) If he intended to make every score sound the same, John Barry should have retired from film scoring at least ten years ago. Don't hurt me.
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Post by indy2003 on Nov 6, 2007 18:33:18 GMT -8
And did I tell you how much the third prequel Star Wars score sucked? For that matter, I can't think of anything Williams has done lately that was really worth a damn. . Since you bring this up, my own equally shocking confession... The third prequel Star Wars score is by far my favorite of the three. Back at ya later
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Post by tharpdevenport on Nov 6, 2007 18:39:55 GMT -8
With Graeme Revell's constant synth-scapes, I find my self less & less interested when he does a new score. If only he did stuff like his theme-heavy, 95% orchestra score to "The 13th Warrior" (which was replaced by Goldsmith).
Goldsmith has his "Capricorn One"; Williams has his "JAWS", Herrmann has his "Psycho"; Poledouris has his "Conan", but Elfman has his ... wait -- he doesn't have anything. He's done some very good scores (Mission: Impossible 1, Anywhere But Here, Black Beauty), but he's NEVER ONCE done a masterpiece. "The Kingdom" was his chance to do that and he SQUANDERED IT. He's got nothing.
Most of David Arnold's scores are highly overrated, especailly "Godzilla".
There are a LOT of ass kissers at FreeClyde.com; it's pathetic.
Goldsmith didn't end his composing career on a Swan Song, despite how any of you may feel.
John Powell needs to go back to composing school.
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Post by ellen on Nov 6, 2007 18:42:31 GMT -8
Thank you. Not that "Talent Vacuum" Santaolalla is my cup of tea, but I just never did understand the unchecked bile over this one.
Another one:
George Fenton is quite possibly the most criminally ignored composer on the planet. What. The. F^#&$k?
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Post by muckle dabuckle on Nov 6, 2007 18:45:35 GMT -8
Yes! This thread is awesome. More like the "therapy" thread.
I agree about JNH. He has tons of talent (especially writing memorable themes) so why are half of his scores just "atmosphere?"
I also don't like Goldsmith's Legend or First Knight and yeah, Star Trek: TMP is highly over-rated.
All Golden Age music sounds the same: gay/happy. I don't care for it (except Rozsa and Waxman).
I loathe the American Beauty score and I hate all of the drug commercial music it influenced.
The Shawshank Redemption score: boring.
I love the Titanic score. "My Heart Will Go On" is a good song.
I don't mind James Horner copying himself. He often improves on a theme from score to score (the Braveheart theme has a better ending when he uses it in Bicentennial Man).
I only bought Mychael Danna's score for "Where the Truth Lies" because Alison Lohman's picture was plastered all over the liner notes and covers.
And Elfman's Mission Impossible score: no. Boring. I tried so many times to like it because everyone says, "Brilliant!" Am I missing something?
-Nate
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Post by muckle dabuckle on Nov 6, 2007 18:50:11 GMT -8
6) I have a crush on a prominent film composer - but there's no way in Hell that I'm telling you who! Thomas Newman? -Nate
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Post by tharpdevenport on Nov 6, 2007 18:52:48 GMT -8
Just as long as you acknowledge that that Titanic song has nothing to do with Dion. All she did is sing it. Horner did the music and Will Jennings wrote the words.
I don't care for Shore's LOtR.
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Post by Michael Arlidge on Nov 6, 2007 18:52:57 GMT -8
6) I have a crush on a prominent film composer - but there's no way in Hell that I'm telling you who! Thomas Newman? -Nate No. Keep floundering. ;D
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