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Post by General Silliness on May 18, 2008 13:25:08 GMT -8
how could they? soulless bore Jocko and I have a history at the Filmtracks Scoreboard (this was like eight years ago) where we used to get into long, nasty flame war arguments about the Star Wars prequels (and politics and religion and a few other things). Yavar i bet you won all the time.
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Post by Jockolantern on May 18, 2008 13:40:42 GMT -8
Don't worry, Jocko, the Star Wars prequels aren't growing on me one bit. I should certainly hope not! I would become seriously concerned about what has become of my dear, rivalrous friendship with you, Yavar, if you ever did.
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Post by Jockolantern on May 18, 2008 13:42:03 GMT -8
i bet you won all the time. Considering our mid-teen immaturity... I'd be more assured we both came out looking like complete asses. I'm more than happy to admit that I certainly did.
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Post by Jens Dietrich on May 18, 2008 13:53:30 GMT -8
I'm proud to say I'm as immature as I ever was.
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Post by General Silliness on May 18, 2008 14:20:25 GMT -8
I'm proud to say I'm as immature as I ever was. i´m still hungry for sensations like i´ve ever been but a much much nicer person as i used to be.
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Post by chollman on May 18, 2008 14:56:29 GMT -8
Just saw this movie and I really really liked it, probably even more so than the first. I didn't look into this too much before hand and it met everything I wanted: fun, exciting, funny, engaging, enjoyable...good acting, great fight scenes, beautiful scenery, and a VERY good score (I am one of the Narnia lovers).
I am very excited for the next one now.
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Post by Yavar Moradi on May 18, 2008 17:38:56 GMT -8
i bet you won all the time. Considering our mid-teen immaturity... I'd be more assured we both came out looking like complete asses. I'm more than happy to admit that I certainly did. I'm certainly willing to admit that I likewise came out looking like a complete ass (except the complete ass who was right instead of the complete ass who was totally and completely wrong ) Yavar
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Post by Jockolantern on May 18, 2008 18:12:24 GMT -8
(except the complete ass who was right instead of the complete ass who was totally and completely wrong ) Couldn't resist throwing that in, could you? That's fine. I'm more than content knowing that you're still stewing over my hard-fought victories. ;D
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Post by Jens Dietrich on May 20, 2008 18:52:08 GMT -8
Okay, Narnia enthusiasts:
I have just returned from Prince Caspian and am even more dumbfounded by C.S. Lewis' mythology than I was after the first movie. I would be extremely grateful of one of you could explain just what this series is all about. Please.
Alright, this is how this is going to work: I'm going to give you my best attempt at summarizing what I've come to understand this story is about, and you can correct me and explain how wrong I am and what I'm not getting. Here goes:
1. There's a magical kingdom called Narnia that consists entirely of forests filled with a totally random assortment of mythological creatures. None of these different species of Narnians seem to have any kind of distinct culture of any kind, no architecture, cuisine, professions etc. For some reason, some of them follow a lion called Aslan, others a witch called The White Witch.
2. Some children are inexplicably brought to Narnia by Aslan to help him fight the White Witch. Thankfully the White Witch is deeply moral, merely freezing her enemies instead of killing them, which means that at the end of the first movie Aslan can easily unfreeze them, gather a massive army and defeat her. The children help with this endeavor, then go home.
3. The moment the children leave Narnia, everything goes completely to shit. Spanish pirates arrive through a magical portal from our world and somehow breed like rabbits, despite the fact that the gene pool from a few measly pirate ships must have been very small indeed (and they shouldn't have had many women with them anyway). Yet soon there are thousands and thousands of the buggers, they invade Narnia and drive the random assortment of fairy tale creatures into the forests.
4. 500 years pass, no technological advancements are made whatsoever, and none of the Spaniards even believe in the existence of Narnians anymore. They must not venture outside their ONE castle much. During this entire time, Aslan wanders the woods aimlessly, not lifting a paw to do anything about the suffering of his people.
5. There's some intrigue, the heir to the throne has to flee, and the moment the guards follow him into the forrest they immediately stumble upon the Narnians they thought extinct. The exiled prince escapes and aligns himself with the Narnians. The four little kids also pop up again to join them. There's some battles, and just as the rest of the Narnians are about to be wiped out, Aslan appears again and kills all the baddies with the help of some giant water creature. The kids go home. The end.
Now please, what is the point and/or appeal of all this? Please tell me, guys!
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Post by franzridesagain on May 21, 2008 2:48:56 GMT -8
From memory, this one had the weakest plot of all the books. The BBC struggled to get a workable plot out of it as well, and ended up doing to whole thing in 2 episodes instead of the 4-5 they devoted to LION, WITCH, WARDROBE, VOYAGE OF THE DAWN TREADER and THE SILVER CHAIR.
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Post by christopher on May 21, 2008 5:52:42 GMT -8
The books are primarily Christian allegory. But the first had much more of a discernable message. Not having seen the new film, I can only tell you the point that I remembered from the book. Lucy can see Aslan before anyone else can. It's not until they believe her that they can see him, too. I think that's the point. If that was the point you were trying to make, why not throw in some spanish pirates? Seriously, the major message that I remembered from the book was that faith comes before sight. There was probably more to that book so perhaps someone can add more. Christopher
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Post by indy2003 on May 21, 2008 6:03:51 GMT -8
I read those books a lot as a kid... but not "Prince Caspian". I read it once and never felt an urge to go back to it. It was my least favorite, for reasons I can't remember... so I can't really tell you how much is missing from the film. That said, I do know that several scenes in the movie (Peter's premature attack on the Spartans... er... Telmarines..., the scene with the white witch) weren't in the book at all.
Anyway, "Voyage of the Dawn Treader" was always my favorite, so maybe the change of directors will give that one a better shot at being... not terrible.
Back at ya later
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Post by Joseph Bat on May 21, 2008 7:08:42 GMT -8
Okay, Narnia enthusiasts: I have just returned from Prince Caspian and am even more dumbfounded by C.S. Lewis' mythology than I was after the first movie. I would be extremely grateful of one of you could explain just what this series is all about. Please. Alright, this is how this is going to work: I'm going to give you my best attempt at summarizing what I've come to understand this story is about, and you can correct me and explain how wrong I am and what I'm not getting. Here goes: 1. There's a magical kingdom called Narnia that consists entirely of forests filled with a totally random assortment of mythological creatures. None of these different species of Narnians seem to have any kind of distinct culture of any kind, no architecture, cuisine, professions etc. For some reason, some of them follow a lion called Aslan, others a witch called The White Witch. 2. Some children are inexplicably brought to Narnia by Aslan to help him fight the White Witch. Thankfully the White Witch is deeply moral, merely freezing her enemies instead of killing them, which means that at the end of the first movie Aslan can easily unfreeze them, gather a massive army and defeat her. The children help with this endeavor, then go home. 3. The moment the children leave Narnia, everything goes completely to shit. Spanish pirates arrive through a magical portal from our world and somehow breed like rabbits, despite the fact that the gene pool from a few measly pirate ships must have been very small indeed (and they shouldn't have had many women with them anyway). Yet soon there are thousands and thousands of the buggers, they invade Narnia and drive the random assortment of fairy tale creatures into the forests. 4. 500 years pass, no technological advancements are made whatsoever, and none of the Spaniards even believe in the existence of Narnians anymore. They must not venture outside their ONE castle much. During this entire time, Aslan wanders the woods aimlessly, not lifting a paw to do anything about the suffering of his people. 5. There's some intrigue, the heir to the throne has to flee, and the moment the guards follow him into the forrest they immediately stumble upon the Narnians they thought extinct. The exiled prince escapes and aligns himself with the Narnians. The four little kids also pop up again to join them. There's some battles, and just as the rest of the Narnians are about to be wiped out, Aslan appears again and kills all the baddies with the help of some giant water creature. The kids go home. The end. Now please, what is the point and/or appeal of all this? Please tell me, guys! The point is the first film made a lot of money, so they had to make a sequel. Even if the second book was terrible. No one would notice, right? ;D Joe
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Post by Jens Dietrich on May 21, 2008 7:43:52 GMT -8
That said, I do know that several scenes in the movie (Peter's premature attack on the Spartans... er... Telmarines..., the scene with the white witch) weren't in the book at all. Ironically, those two scenes are my favorite moments from the film.
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Post by indy2003 on May 21, 2008 8:05:30 GMT -8
That said, I do know that several scenes in the movie (Peter's premature attack on the Spartans... er... Telmarines..., the scene with the white witch) weren't in the book at all. Ironically, those two scenes are my favorite moments from the film. Mine too, actually... especially the latter. Back at ya later
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