sdtom
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Post by sdtom on Jan 18, 2008 19:59:59 GMT -8
This was a great thread for me even though only a few participated.
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Post by franzridesagain on Jan 24, 2008 16:36:05 GMT -8
Corigliano's 1st is one of my favourites.
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Post by sdtom on Jan 25, 2008 20:35:57 GMT -8
We were discussing the greatest 6th symphonies of all time tonight at the store. My vote went to Tchaikovsky's No. 6. Marion, a classical pianist gave the nod to Beethoven's Pastoral.
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Post by Yavar Moradi on Jan 25, 2008 22:54:59 GMT -8
Mahler's 6th, definitely. Not only my favorite Mahler symphony but also favorite 6th symphony.
Yavar
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Post by Armin on Jan 25, 2008 23:52:16 GMT -8
As for first symphonies I'd probably have to go with Mahler 1 as well. Don't like Beethoven 1, Franck is all right. Schumann 1 is another lovely piece of work.
As for 6th symphony there's not that many composers. Let's see if we can get them together (leaving out all the Baroque stuff):
Bax Beethoven Bruckner Dvoark Haydn Mahler Mozart Prokofiev Raff Schubert Shostakovich Sibelius Tchaikowsky Vaughan-Williams
Anything I missed. Of there Mahler 6 gets my vote, with Bruckner 6 a close second.
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Post by sdtom on Jan 26, 2008 8:33:12 GMT -8
I certainly cannot disagree with the vote for Mahler's first at all Armin. There are those who can make a case that it is the greatest symphony ever written. As I have mentioned before my friend Victor Diaz who had radio stations in TJ listened to it every day of his life, never getting tired of it.
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Post by Yavar Moradi on Jan 26, 2008 10:02:44 GMT -8
As for first symphonies I'd probably have to go with Mahler 1 as well. Don't like Beethoven 1, Franck is all right. Schumann 1 is another lovely piece of work. As for 6th symphony there's not that many composers. Let's see if we can get them together (leaving out all the Baroque stuff): Bax Beethoven Bruckner Dvoark Haydn Mahler Mozart Prokofiev Raff Schubert Shostakovich Sibelius Tchaikowsky Vaughan-Williams You rock! (And you know why, too.) Sibelius slipped my mind. His sixth is fantastic. There's also Myaskovsky Glazunov Martinu Mendelssohn (arguably) Scriabin (arguably) Langgaard Nielsen Norholm Louis Glass Philip Glass (his 6th is really pretty cool and I'm not a huge Glass fan...at least I wasn't until a year or so ago when his film scores and concert works got a lot better IMO) Aho Segerstam Rautavaara Marttinen Sallinen (Aulis Sallinen, not Esa-Pekka Salonen) Englund Rosenberg Pettersson Atterburg Toch (many famous film composers studied with him) Moyzes Simpson Milhaud Popov Schnittke Wellesz Lloyd Gade Kalliwoda Stanford Alwyn (great film composer too) Ries Brian (his first symphony, the "Gothic," is almost two hours long and the longest one that ever gets played, maybe that was ever written -- he wrote many more though) Hovhaness (probably the most prolific modern symphonist, 60 at least, and pretty much all full-length) Antheil Mennin Persichetti Schuman (not Schumann) Norgard Arnold (good film composer too) Rubbra Reznicek (I think) Melartin Holmboe Those are just guys I know (modern and romantic) with six or more symphonies (you should see the list if you only require three, or even five). There are plenty more I'm not familiar with. Lots of these composers are really excellent -- you'd be surprised how much excellent music one can find off the beaten reperatory path. Yavar
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Post by TJ on Jan 26, 2008 15:08:46 GMT -8
bax 6th is excellent.
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Post by Carlton the Barbarian on Jan 26, 2008 19:17:47 GMT -8
Hey, you two forgot Howard Hanson?
Tj, I've only heard Bax's third. How does the 6th compare?
-CG
NP: Shostakovich: Symphony No 6
PS: Yavar, did you ever check out Gorecki?
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Post by Armin on Jan 27, 2008 2:41:35 GMT -8
I didn't know we were that serious about getting all composers with 6+ symphonies together. Haven't heard most of that stuff you listed, Yavar. At some point I'll look into it, when I got time.
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Post by franzridesagain on Jan 27, 2008 3:39:45 GMT -8
Carl Vine's 6th Symphony - called 'The Choral Symphony' is very good. Not quite as rivetting as his 5th, the Percussion Symphony.
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Post by Yavar Moradi on Jan 27, 2008 12:38:14 GMT -8
I didn't know we were that serious about getting all composers with 6+ symphonies together. Haven't heard most of that stuff you listed, Yavar. At some point I'll look into it, when I got time. Well, you listed Raff and Bax, who aren't too well known today, so I thought I'd take it a bit further. You made a comment that for 6 symphonies there weren't that many composers, so I listed some. Yavar
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Post by Yavar Moradi on Jan 27, 2008 12:39:59 GMT -8
Never heard of Carl Vine.
I have of course heard of Hanson (heard lots of his symphonic works and one symphony, didn't know he did six or more) and Gorecki (heard his famous 3rd symphony but that's it, didn't know he did 6+). I like both of them.
Yavar
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Post by Yavar Moradi on Jan 27, 2008 13:05:14 GMT -8
Here's another composer with 6+ symphonies who I forgot to mention because I've never heard his work. It sounds great in description though (one piece compared to Mendelssohn's Hebrides Overture, my favorite Mendelssohn piece, and I'm *very* intrigued by the "lyrical" double bass concerto of 1902): www.raff.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1197493485/0Time to check out some Abert! That's a great forum and a great site, BTW. Lengthy sound samples from almost all of Raff's major works (every movement). Instrumental (ha!) in him becoming one of my top 3 classical composers several years back (and for the record I fell in love with my CD of the music *first* and then discovered how much Bernard Herrmann loved this guy -- I was not at all biased because of the film music connection). Yavar
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Post by TJ on Jan 27, 2008 15:20:05 GMT -8
Hey, you two forgot Howard Hanson? Tj, I've only heard Bax's third. How does the 6th compare? -CG I don't remember the 3rd.
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