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Post by Armin on Feb 23, 2007 16:47:23 GMT -8
But why should he write something twelve-tone, serial, minimalist, ugely dissonant? Just to prove he's not the "cheesy romantic tune" composer?
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Post by Yavar Moradi on Feb 23, 2007 21:06:48 GMT -8
Maybe because he feels like it.
There's plenty of music like that in film scores (difference being I think it has more of an immediate *point*, that is, to support the visuals).
I don't think film composers have to justify to us what their concert music sounds like (although I do have my preferences). I've surprised myself by actually learning to like Christus Apollo quite a bit, actually.
It's also not fair to generalize. There are plenty of film composers whose concert work isn't far removed from their "beautiful" film scores. Here are some excellent cases in point to outweigh your John Williams (and Ennio Morricone I guess...Jerry Goldsmith lands in the middle): Lee Holdridge (get the Citadel CD with his 2nd violin concerto; it's great!), Erich Wolfgang Korngold, Howard Blake, John Scott, Miklos Rozsa, Franz Waxman (his Joshua Oratorio just came out on Deutsche Grammophone and while perhaps not exactly beautiful it's not far removed from his film music at all)....
Yavar
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Post by TJ on Mar 10, 2007 12:35:50 GMT -8
Korngold's concert music is fantastic. I love his cello concerto, piano concerto for left hand, and sinfonietta. Haven't heard the symphony or violin concerto yet but heard they're great.
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Post by Yavar Moradi on Mar 12, 2007 2:27:57 GMT -8
Korngold's violin concerto is one I'm not too crazy about. A virtuoso piece that provided some great showing-off for Heifetz, but it terms of music it feels like film score themes forced into a show-off classical solo framework -- I far prefer the original film scores rather than the themes from unrelated films thrown together in a sort of compilation concert work. Korngold re-used his concert music in films and film scores in concert works, but this is the one that bothers me most (second most is that The Adventures of Robin Hood is honestly only 50% or so original, taken primarily from Sursum Corda but also a few other concert pieces).
His early Sinfonietta is amazing, unique, and original, but in terms of grabbing me and appealing to my personal taste, I actually prefer his awesome Symphony which he composed years after Hollywood.
Yavar
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Post by General Silliness on Mar 12, 2007 10:25:29 GMT -8
I would love a concertwork from Ron Jones...
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Post by Armin on Mar 13, 2007 1:56:31 GMT -8
Yavar, you're the right man for these kinds of things - any way to get my hands on the horn music of that concert, the Zigman piece, Giacchino, ...?
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Post by Yavar Moradi on Mar 13, 2007 17:02:14 GMT -8
Yep. PM me. I'm the source for that (I got it from my friend who's a member of the horn ensemble that performed). I'm a slow trader though sometimes, I warn you.
Yavar
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Post by indy2003 on Mar 17, 2007 1:52:07 GMT -8
I'm not sure whether it counts as a "concert piece" or not, but I'm a big fan of John Barry 14-minute "Romance for guitar and orchestra" from "Deadfall"... wonderful stuff, wish he wrote more music like it.
Back at ya later
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Post by Yavar Moradi on Mar 17, 2007 8:36:00 GMT -8
Even though it was written for a film I count it. It is somewhere in between, though. Like Korngold's cello concerto.
Yavar
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Post by nateunderkuffler on Jul 19, 2007 14:41:50 GMT -8
Serenada Schizophrana was my favorite release of last year, along with The New World. The whole thing is just wonderful, pure pure gloriously developed Elfman. I would *love* for Powell to write concert music, along with all the rest!!
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Post by Jens Dietrich on Sept 2, 2007 20:48:18 GMT -8
In this case I would say that different is good, not dangerous. What, really, would be the point of Powell simply writing more of the same outside the movies?
Instead of rehashing his tried and true methods for the concert hall, I'd like to see Powell go into a totally different direction entirely. Like death metal.
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Post by jommuk on Sept 29, 2007 5:06:41 GMT -8
Something like Short Ride In A Fast Car from John Adams sounds like fun. William's already has Scherzo for Motorcycle and Orchestra.
Seems many film composers go highly abstract when they arn't scoring for film. "Art" music presses a button and "pop" existential mode, leaving people feeling like they don't have a clue what just happened.
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